Friday, September 9, 2011

Bloggers & Nails Magazine: There's Room Enough For All Of Us

I was reading my new issue of Nails Magazine earlier today, and I must admit that I was rather surprised by this piece from from their editor, Hannah Lee. I'm sure my eyes widened quite a bit when I read this first part, and I was initially shocked by the rude tone she takes toward Bloggers. I am fully aware that this publication's goal is "dedicated to the success of nail professionals", as their publication's tag line states. I am also aware that there are plenty of people in this world who are passionate--and unlicensed--individuals who often know more about their hobby than many professionals do. I'm not just speaking about the nail industry...just because someone doesn't have a license or earn money pursuing their hobbies and interests, doesn't mean that they don't have something interesting and knowledgeable to offer to others.

My husband works in the construction business, but he is passionate about motorcycles and cars. He is often called upon for his advice by people who trust his wisdom and words when it comes to working on various engines. He subscribes to Indy Car Magazine, and he gets as excited in an auto parts store as I do in a beauty supply store. He's simply an enthusiast who, like myself, spends his leisure time learning more about his passion and doing something he loves. Why do we do these things? It's simple. Because it makes us happy, and that's all there is to it. We both enjoy talking to our friends and acquaintances about our passions, particularly those who share those same passions. That's why I have my blog. It allows me to share my passion with like-minded individuals who share similar interests. I get a very real sense of happiness doing what I do here, and I appreciate all of the friends I've made. I think you'll agree that the excitement and passion we feel for the beauty products we share are appreciated more by the audience we have on our blogs than by the majority of people we deal with in real life.

This is the first part of the Nails Magazine piece, and Ms. Lee, please stop referring to us as nail polish junkies who are looking for free handouts. Yes, you go on to say that that statement was "a little harsh," yet you still allowed those words to go into print. (click to enlarge)

So that I'm not accused by anyone of taking something out of context or not providing the full article, you'll find that below. I'm still detecting a negative tone in this section where she goes on to say that nail professionals know what products to recommend because they read and go to shows and follow professional bloggers--note how the word professional is italicized.

I understand what she's trying to say...the nail industry is suffering economically, as are many industries these days. Nail professionals have to stay a step ahead if they are to maintain their business volume, and with products such as gel nail kits being offered to the public at Ulta and Sally Beauty, their business is likely taking a hit.

But I'll tell you something...I get my nails done in a salon on occasion, and 9 times out of 10, the manicurist isn't aware of many products and product lines that I ask her about. I get my nails done at the same business where I get my hair done, and my hair stylist has commented many times that I know more about products than she does. She tells me every time I see her that I should get my license and do what I love professionally. I have no interest in doing that, and I'll tell you why. If I had to do it for a living, it would probably diminish my passion for it. I don't want to deal with people all day, I don't want to listen to complaints, and I know how hard it is to make decent money in that industry. It's a lot of work and I simply have no desire to do that on a professional level.

I spend a lot of time reading about the beauty industry, and not just the nail industry aspect. I enjoy the whole picture...fashion, cosmetics, ingredients, packaging, advertising...it's a fascinating industry. I enjoy sharing what I learn with my readers, and I like to stay current on things for my own satisfaction. If I choose to write about what I love, and someone out there appreciates my efforts, that's just the icing on the cake. If cyberspace shut down tomorrow, I'd still be reading everything I could get my hands on, perusing the aisles of drug stores and high-end department stores alike, looking for new and exciting things to fuel my passion.

What do you think about the way this article comes across? Personally, I find it rather insulting and the more I think about it, it's almost humorous at this point to me. Nails Magazine often features Bloggers in their magazine--in fact, Diana from Painted Lady Fingers is featured on p. 89 along with some other Bloggers. I think Bloggers offer their readers/consumers so many choices about products, and as a consumer myself, I appreciate that. There are many brands and products that I never would have discovered had I not read about them on a blog. Many salons don't carry anything other than OPI and CND, so I know for a fact that nail polish and cosmetics brands in general appreciate what Bloggers do. I'm not a licensed nail technician, I don't have a license to blog (!), and I'm quite certain I'm not a professional blogger. But I will continue to blog because I enjoy it, and I think my readers do too.

So I'm not moving over Nails Magazine, but I'll be happy to share my seat with you...because there is room for all of us.

118 comments:

  1. This is a shame.. As she said, if the professional side is in crisis gloggers are not to blame, and even, to me, to thank, you are what provide them clients..
    And when you know that most of them are not really aware of all the products and all..
    Personally I never went to a salon, and even if I didn't know how to apply nail polish I wouldn't go there, it is in no case because of nail blogs.

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  2. This is ridiculous. If she wants "professionals" to take over the blogging side of things, she should write better articles - ones DOING what she wants her fellow professionals to do i.e. writing about trends, methods, facts...NOT simply disparaging those of us who are passionate and love what we do. In other words, stop whining and practice what you preach. I'm a blogger and I've NEVER received anything for free from a manufacturer, so I'm not here for the handout either, girlfriend.

    Thanks for posting this Mary. <3

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  3. Wow wtf? really? that wasnt nes.

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  4. wow. I don't even have any words, that is one of the most insulting articles I've read in a while. Very disappointed that this magazine would publish that.

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  5. Wow, that was just upsetting! You're completely right, most of the professionals that I speak to about nail polish know little to nothing about the newest colors, collections, styles, art...

    And I'm by no means a professional, but why should that keep me from wanting to have or having a blog that people want to read? Maybe I just want to keep track of the different manicures that I do for myself, and maybe inspire a few people. The more information out there, the better, I say.

    It seems like this article was written after a blog-bashing session that she had with her friends. It doesn't seem like she thought through any of the benefits that DIY bloggers can bring to the table.

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  6. That's horrible. I get most of my latest nail news NOT from a salon, but blogs like THIS! Like many nail polish bloggers out there, nail polish is their passion, and I see nothing wrong with what they're doing.

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  7. I started searching out and reading nail blogs after I got a random manicure with the most perfect shade of blue and couldn't for the life of me figure out or remember what brand or shade it was. I kept reading because I realized that I had very particular preferences for polish and reading the opinions of bloggers could save me some serious cash by not purchasing every bottle that looked pretty. I thank you for what you do, so keep on truckin'!

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  8. What just amazes me is that she's telling nail techs: start a blog yourself!!

    Um.

    Blogging is a huge job. You have to source or create your text, your photos, everything. Not everyone is able to paint with words, or compose stunningly interesting text or take good photos (or even crop and place existing ones well.) And that doesn't step into the realm of choosing a template, updating it, staying abreast of social media...there's a HELL of a lot of work that goes into blogging, even if you aren't doing it on a professional level (I'm a hobbyist blogger, always have been, always will be. I can't be bothered to do the whole PR thing, I just blog about what I learn and what I love. And if some "current hot new" stuff happens to get in there? Yay, great. But I'm not going to actively seek it out to be the First One To Post About X.) Not everyone who has the training and passion to be a good nail techician has the aptitudes, passion, or even interest to be a good blogger. Or even a mediocre blogger. Just like being a skilled quality nail technician is more than just painting someone else's nails, being a quality blogger is more involved than opening the web browser to blogger.com and mentioning the latest seasonal collections and trends.

    There are, and always will be, plenty of people who prefer to do their own nails even if they have money to spend to get someone else to do it. (I would be one of those people.) I will always do my own nails, because to me the whole process is fun and creative and kind of therapeutic. I won't do someone else's nails because it isn't fun to me, and I won't pay someone else to do it for me because I don't value the time spent getting the extra treatments and nail shaping and suchwhich. I'm more than content with what I can do on my own.

    Hannah could have very easily encouraged nail techs to step into blogging or Twitter or Facebook as a way to gain more exposure for themselves, their salons, their own business. That's a perfectly valid tack to take. Some of them will like using social media, some will have to work at it a bit, others will not be at all interested in the idea because they prefer to focus their efforts elsewhere, or they aren't "social networkers" by nature. But attacking and damning nail bloggers as "stealing attention" from nail techs? That's a bit like the RIAA claiming that everyone who downloads music automatically equals money lost, that would have otherwise been coming to the artists (and, more importantly, to the recording studios and rights management people.) It's more than a bit disingenuous.

    No nail tech has ever made money from me, and no nail tech ever will - NOT because of anything this ignorant woman says in her editorial, and not because of anything I've ever read online; but because of my own preferences and choices.

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  10. Great post! Thanks for sharing that article.

    It seems like maybe there's a very innacurate nail blogger stereotype that's taken hold of the journos over at Nails Magazine.
    And this kind of article is the exact reason people have started to look to blogs for news and advice as opposed to the press and industry professionals. Blogs are (more often than not) impartial and unprejudiced. We are all just here to share our opinions and knowledge without slandering others.

    I love that last point 'heck, put stuff you find on blogs.. in there too'. Kind of contradictory I'd say!

    xx

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  11. I heard about other nail products that I never saw in salons from fellow bloggers. The same with nail care/designs. So maybe if the salons provided us with the same knowledge we're getting from bloggers and youtubers,we would go to them more often. Some bloggers work their asses off to provide us with the newest nail collections,the "in" colors and latest DIY designs. So do they not deserve a little spotlight? I think they do.

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  12. Today I was on a cosmetic show in my country and met some of these nail "professionals". I can tell you that I was the one who new more about new collections, polish colours and trends. This is really sad. We are no threat to them :/

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  13. Phahahaha! XD This lady is just... Well, I pity her. Really. She's obviously very annoyed by the bloggers and I wonder why. =D Maybe because they know just as much as her and she's loosing her bussiness? Oh well. I know best which nail shape suits me, I know what kind of color I wanna wear. Noone can say they know it better than me. Noone.

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  14. WOW, Polish junkies!!!! I would just like to say that me as a blogger find this article rude and insulting to me. I do know for a fact that I know more about nails then pro nail techs and I have had a lot of them say that to me. I still go get my nails done but I like to do them myself most of the time. I think they need to retract this article. Mary, Thank you for showing this and I agree with everything you wrote. If I turned pro I would not like to do this anymore.

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  15. Does she know that there are some nail bloggers that are nail techs? :/ She's encouraging nail techs to get their blogs. They'll be nail bloggers then. Isn't this all the same?

    Nail blogs provide more variety than I could ever get from 1 nail tech in a salon. That's the reason why a good number of people turn to nail blogs. There is so much more information in one avenue: online.

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  16. wow!! thanks for sharing. Very insulting to us nail bloggers! Most aren't making money off of our blogs or even getting free polishes, so we certainly aren't taking anything away from the nail techs. But in this economy, most people would rather paint their own nails than pay to get them done anyway. I know, when I used to get my nails done for years, I didn't know anywhere near as much as I know now that I've been doing natural nails.

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  17. Ive seen this closed minded approach before, I am actually a qualified nail tech but I dont work as one. The reason I became one is because I had a pro job done that was SHOCKINGLY BAD I knew I could do better. Ive been sliced by 'pros' Ive bled because of 'pros' and any 'pro' Ive ever spoken to hasnt a Clue about Anything.

    Go on beauty forums designed for pros you'll find all bar the 'professional' nail techs will freely converse about each others topics of choice. The pro nail techs will bully anyone who is not also a pro out... Seen it with my own eyes

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  18. That's too bad she feels that way.
    If your company is not making money,
    insulting the 'polish junkies' who love polish enough to blog about their adventures is not the way to make more money.

    I'm sorry, but there is no 'pecking order'
    Whoever talks like this has delusions of grandeur. Yes, you are a nail professional but that doesn't make other people 'lesser' than you.

    We all have something of value to say.
    Ok, so as an example. I love design and I'm going to school to learn how to learn the profession. And I'm sure there are people who love design but are not professional and make blogs about design. It doesn't make then less.

    The more people know about design the better.
    They might want a professional, and they will know who the best is because they are so into design. So,I don't think this is bad.

    You should embrace them, because the more people love something, the more they will want to invest to learn more about the thing they love.

    I mean I spend so much money on polish it's crazy..


    Maybe one day I would pay a lot of money to get some amazing nail art by some amazing professional nail artist.

    And I would know the difference because I would be a 'nail junkie'

    ehh whatever.
    People are scared. So people lash out.
    I understand that.

    They obviously got into nails for the wrong reason...because they are missing out on so much opportunity.

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  19. RUDE! Wow, sour grapes much? She's just pissed that bloggers are often more interesting, informative and user-friendly than industry professionals, not to mention the magazine she is "attempting" to edit (obviously not succeeding at editing her own nasty self).

    I love your blog BTW.

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  20. *picks jaw up off floor* WOW. I can hardly even make it past the first sentence! Her tone comes across as rude, harsh, and ignorant. Most of us blog because we love sharing our passion. I love having a community of other polishes lovers that I can feel a part of. It's my happy place after a long day at work. And I agree with you, that typically I find that I know more about polishes and products than most nail techs. I worked at a spa for 6 months, and the nail techs there looked at me like I had three heads if I mentioned any other brand besides OPI. They even made fun of me for my polish hobby. Just craziness. I can't believe that article even made it to print. *shudders*

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  21. My interactions with nail salons have NOT been the norm she describes in her article. I often don't find myself faced with someone who wants to communicate in English (no offense to anyone who speaks a different language, I can speak more than English too). Sometimes (more times than not) there is an issue because the jist of what I am trying to communicate is not understood well either. I'm looked at as a paying customer, someone who is coming in to receive a service in exchange for cash. They don't want me to stay long, they don't want me to delay my manicure because I want to get more information from my tech about newest techniques or ask about things.

    The nail industry wants money, and they want customers who come in, receive service, pay and leave. They want as many of those people as possible, as MANY possible in a day and to gather the most amount of money in a month. Why? Because we are in a recession folks! When the money is tight, then people start doing their nails at home and they don't visit their favorite manicurist because THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. Getting your nails done professionally is a luxury some can not afford in their budget. Till then, they will find their business slowed, interest low and not a large amount of cash flow coming in. I think techs should use this time to educate and become more customer friendly in ALL ASPECTS of nail care (not just colors, but things that the customer can do outside of the salon to keep their nails in top shape... but then again, if they screwed up their nails and fixed it themselves they would not be coming back into that salon and paying THEM to fix it!). Ah, it all comes back to money.

    I wish I knew how much percentage that do-it-yourself-ers for nail polish were making the nail companies, and how much of that polish sold went to salons and spas. I bet individual consumers are buying more polish than salons these days, after all, wasn't it said by another nail blogger than when times get tough we aren't buying Chanel bags but Chanel polish instead?

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  22. Wow, just wow!! Thanks for sharing this article. As a fellow hobby blogger I am disgusted by this. I have had my nails done at a salon several times with girlfriends. All I can say is if they are feeling threatened maybe they should step their game up!

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  23. I like how she tells these professional nail techs to put together books of swatches and trends, and use things they find on these silly little blogs and present it as if it's their own work. Stay classy!

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  24. How sad that instead of embracing all the awesome blogs out there, she needs to act like an insecure child and put down the people we love, to do what? make herself look better? Because I'm pretty sure that article didn't accomplish that.

    What these bloggers have that she clearly lacks is an obsession for nails. Our favorite bloggers do what they do because they can't imagine NOT doing it, not because it's their job.

    When your job makes you this bitter and defensive, maybe it's time to find a new job. No matter what periodicals exist, I'll always love and visit my favorite blogs. They are the ones that sparked my love of nails.

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  25. Wow!!! I sure feel insulted now. I am only a beginning blogger so I must say I do not get freebies. Every polish or bit of nail art on my blog has been totally and completely purchased by me! And every time I go to a salon or shop I know more than these people. SHEEZ!! What a fool!

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  26. that certainly felt like a slap in the face. i mean, i'm by no means a professional nail tech, nor a nail blogger, but i still felt hurt for all the amazing bloggers out there.

    i do understand about the economy, but it happens in more industries than just beauty. i'm a professional graphic designer, i went to school and have a degree to do it. our industry isn't dying, but it's getting easier for non-professionals to design, for personal or business reasons. now that doesn't mean it's all good design, there's a large spectrum in all things, but that just means i have to step up my game to be on top of things, to know what's current, to know what my clients want, to just be as good as i can be in my area of expertise. i'm not going to go out and chastise non-professionals for doing something they like.

    i'm sure the editor of the magazine will be receiving lots of harshly worded letters.

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  27. First of all I love blogging, I dont blog just about nails. Like Mary said, I love the industry. Make up, nails, hair, fashion the whole nine. Now as a blogger this article is offensive. It is not our faults that some salons dont know whats new and whats not. Personally, I cant afford to be in a nail salon every two weeks or whatever. I have always been a DIY'er when it comes to things like that. She was way out of line to say what she said.

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  28. wow Mary I love you for showing us this. What she said was just rude. I am in pharmacy school and before I even started I knew a lot more about over the counter drugs than the other students because it was something I actually cared about and wanted to know b/c I like that kind of stuff. I think a lot of people go into a job or a path to a job without being interested in it because "oh this sounds good" I don't think another pharmacist would be upset that a student learned all that on their own they'd be proud that a student was so interested. You'd think the nail professionals would be the same way, they'd be happy to know that you are interested and did some research. It isn't like nail bloggers are going to all go out and start their own salons or start their own magazines and push her out. And if they did they'd be marketing to people like me who is someone who does somethign else but loves polish. I love insects but if I went talking to an entomologist about bees they wouldn't be threatened they'd be happy to see someone excited about what they do.

    I'm surprised she had the guts to post that such a rude statement as a whole, you can't inspire someone who doesn't like their job or never did hobbies are always going to be more interesting no matter how cool your job is

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  29. i agree with the anonymous poster earlier, too, how it's even more insulting that the editor was telling the professionals to go and put together books of pictures, some (most?) of which are probably coming from nail bloggers. that's a pretty low blow. you can't insult someone's work and passion, and then use it to promote your own business. hello!

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  30. I'll try to be fast, because it's very difficult writing complex concepts in english to me. I don't know the situation about international salons, but in Italy they are damned expensive. In my house I have better files than them, better polishes and with more original colors, less aggressive treatments, I don't cut my cuticles, I spend a lot of mine for cleaning up my edges. No one salon I heard about make and use the same, unless you'll make gel nails. Sorry "pros", but actually the most of you doesn't deserve the word "pro".
    There's a lot of people who thinks passion could replace experience and this is wrong (I always says to my friends "BEFORE take care ofyour nail THEN you'll think about pretty plishes), but a licence couldn't replace the passion, never.

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  31. Wow! Can't believe she put that in print. I had the same reaction to the article as you did. Someone who is running a business(magazine in her case) would never call out a certain group and tell them to back down. We are consumers, consumers of polish but her magazine also and I have been thinking about getting a subscription but I will not patronize narrow minded business.

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  32. The content of the article in shocking and offensive. After having one too many bad experiences at nail salons, I've lost trust in the professional nail care service industry. I have stopped going to nail salons because whenever I get my nails done professionally, my manis/pedis never last, nail technicians often try to sell overpriced products that may not be right for me, and many nail techs have come to take their customers for granted and don't see the need to uphold a professional standard of behavior. Most recently, my mom and I were getting manis/pedis together at a popular local salon and our nail techs seemed more interested in gossiping with each other than doing a good job on our nails and making sure we had a good experience. I am usually a pretty easy going person, but it took everything for me to not just get up and walk out of the salon. And at the end of it, both techs did a subpar job and my mom and I were so irritated by the behavior of the techs that an experience that should have been a fun and relaxing turned out to be frustrating and unpleasant.

    I prefer getting my nail care advice from bloggers because they are not trying to directly sell you anything and they are usually pretty straightforward about the shortcomings of various products. Also, as you mentioned, you can't rely on nail salons to keep up with trends. Many techs still have pretty rigid ideas about what is age and skin tone appropriate and for someone who loves experimenting with nail color, it can be pretty irritating to be told that something won’t work for me when I know from experience that it will. I've learned quite a bit from reading blogs and MUA over the last few years and am now grateful that I can buy my own high quality products and do my own manis/pedis instead of going to a salon and paying more money for a mani/pedi that won’t last very long and a dissatisfying experience. I know that there are many great techs out there and I respect their place in the nail service industry. I think that bloggers are providing an important service for nail hobbyists out there and I don't think that most bloggers have any desire to usurp professional techs, so I think the columnist is manufacturing a problem that doesn't need to exist. That said, I don't think it would be bad for more nail techs to start their own blogs, it would further enrich the nail blogosphere. But it would by no means result in my neglecting some of my favorite nail bloggers out there!

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  33. I love how you closed this. I did go through cosmetology schooling and yet I still can go into a salon and start talking with the nail tech and they look at me wide eyed, like a deer in headlights. Not to say they are all like this, but in the same vein, this is where nail bloggers come in handy! They can help to fill the gaps that consumers aren't having filled by going to a "professional"

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  34. Wow! Wow! and Wow! Again! The reason most people, professional or not read blogs is to learn about new products and all the other products that are available everywhere, not just at one certain salon. We are also looking for honest and unbiased opinions that we can only find on blogs!!! We learn about brands that are bought at the drug store, discount store and the new brands that small professionals are putting out there.

    What few things I have gotten free from companies would not even begin to compensate me for the things I didn't get for free, my time and my dedication to my followers.

    Some professionals because they are working most of the day and night to make a living don't have the time that some bloggers do to research and know about all the products out there. I do have a professional that does guest blogs for me on the things I'm not as knowledgeable about and things that she learned in school that I don't know. How is that not being responsible?

    So she called us Press, I think that's the word she used....yes we are that too! Whats wrong with that? Anyway, I'm sure you all are thinking some of the same things.

    Kudo's for writing this "VERY INFORMATIVE" blog :)

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  35. Thank you for posting this article. I found your article much more interesting than the article she wrote, She could have handled that in a much better fashion. It sounds like one of her main points was to try to get professionals more involved in the industry. For a lot of these "professionals" it's a job you do it to collect that check at the end of the week. There's not much passion behind it. At the end of the day it's just a job you get through. I hate the fact that she's blasting bloggers because they have a hobby/interest that they are passionate about.

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  36. what a poorly written insult.... This lady is so beyond rude and jealous....

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  37. Wow! Hannah Lee can stuff it. That article was incredibly rude. And your respectful and classy response, Mary, points out just how classless she is.

    I'm not a blogger, frankly because I don't have the energy to put in the amount of work and dedication it requires. That said, I read nail polish blogs every. single. day. You know what I don't do every day, or ever? Go to a "professional" to have my nails done. I know a few professional nail techs and honestly, they're always a little behind the curve when it comes to new products. I know that by reading "unprofessional" blogs, I'm going to get the latest information. So thank you, Mary, and all the other bloggers out there, for your hard work keeping us "nail junkies" informed and please don't let a bully like Hannah Lee discourage you!

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  38. The woman who wrote this article is an uppity HOOT. I find the exact opposite of her assertions to be true all throughout the beauty industry... the employees at the Nail Salon/Beauty counter can NEVER answer my questions, while the internet (bloggers, forums, etc.) CAN. The so called 'professionals' are 9 times out of 10 clueless when I mention anything specific, any trend, or any product that isn't OPI. I think the writer of this article is probably some very old-school person who is 10 years too late catching onto the internet age and doesn't realize that it is THE all powerful resource right now.

    You can also tell how old school and just...backwards, she is by the attitude she has about a license being the be all and end all of everything. Anyone with a pulse and the money can become a licensed nail tech. A few months of a training course and a piece of paper doesn't magically grant you all the knowledge and skill in the world. That's going to come through time, experience, etc and depend on the individual. But nope, this writer swears it comes on a piece of paper.

    I encourage anyone reading this post to contact the magazine and this woman directly about her misinformed, insulting assertions.

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  39. I'm glad you posted this. What a freakin' crock!

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  40. I'm really glad you shared this article. Thank you for that, and thanks for sharing your passion with all of us.

    In all honesty, people need to get off their high horses and accept the fact that others can be just as good as those "professionals". Everyone can be good at something, and they do not have to be certified. I agree with everything you say. Gosh. That article really urked me. This is just really upsetting.

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  41. I read your post, and I wrote a post of my blog me too.
    Yes, I can be included in the definition POLISH JUNKIES, since I'm a blogger.
    I'm disgusted, and I would like to write more, but English is not my mother tongue, so it's not easy for me. Anyway, I have two easy words to describe this article: EPIC FAIL.

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  42. The editor has already responded to the backlash from the article. Summary: "I'm not sorry."

    http://blogs.nailsmag.com/editor/archive/2011/09/09/Follow-Up-to-Article-About-Consumer-Beauty-Bloggers.aspx

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  43. Awesome post! You said it perfectly. The old saying 'Do what you love.' Isn't always right. I love polish, but my real hobby is dog training. I get people telling me all the time that I should make it a business, but the fact is, if I spent 8 hours a day training dogs, I probably would be too exhausted to work with my own, and that's no fun for me. I love working with my dogs and taking pride in what my dogs and I have accomplished. It's better than money, it's a bond between my dogs and I. I wouldn't want it any other way.

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  44. Now that my jaw is off the floor...all I can say is that if Ms. Lee represents a typical "pro" view, the chances of me EVER having my nails done in a salon just went from low to nil. I will not spend my money supporting that kind of ignorance and hatefulness.

    As someone who did work professionally in one of her hobbies for awhile (unrelated to the beauty industry), you are very right - it's about the fastest way I know of to kill a passion and end that hobby.

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  45. What makes her better? Hannah Lee isn't even a licensed "professional" so isn't that a little like the pot calling the kettle black?

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  46. Wow... she seems seriously... not nice. Hostile, one might say. The idea that one has to be a professional to know about a subject is just silly. Sure, for some things, I'd prefer a professional, like the person maintaining a nuclear reactor or operating on my brain. But this tone is really extreme, especially when you consider the subject matter.

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  47. Thank you for posting this. I couldn't agree more with your post or all of the comments I just read. I can't believe this article was even published in a 'professional' magazine. What a shame.

    I started blogging 2 months ago as a hobby. I don't expect free handouts and I know I will never get them. I've spent thousands on polish just out of pure passion and excitement and I wouldn't change a thing! I'm not here for handouts. I'm here because of my love for polish and because of inspiration I find on other blogs. I've never walked out of a salon inspired and wanting more.

    I find I know more about collections than most of the salons I visit. When I dusty hunt nobody know what I am talking about or what I'm looking for. I found OPI's VHTF 'La Boheme' from 2003 and the owner of a salon told me it was NEW!

    I know not all salons or licensed techs are the same. I just wish Hannah Lee knew all 'polish junkies' or bloggers were not the same! Ignorance is bliss, right Hannah? I just hope this makes everyone want to do what they are doing even more. :)

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  48. What. the. hell. Is she seriously proposing that the nail techs STEAL images from blogs and present it as their own work?! The bloggers she features in her magazine should be offended. So bloggers are unprofessional, so it's okay to use their work just because you have a license and they don't. How little she respects "non-professionals" is disgusting and offensive. If someone was blogging just for "free handouts" they would not be blogging for very long as it's a lot of work. In an effort to support nail professionals she comes across as decidedly unprofessional.

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  49. Wow. I went into a salon six months ago and asked them to do two colors on my nails, one on the moon and a darker color on the rest of the nail. They said they had no idea how to do that, but they could paint a flower on my nail. Seriously? Bloggers are heads and tails ahead of the trends. If the paid journalists don't like unpaid writers getting more attention, then I suggest they work harder to provide better content, not slam the people who are keeping the trends in customers minds more than ever before.

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  50. I have honestly NEVER found a "professional" that knows as much as I have found out in the past few months of blogging. I am NOT calling myself a pro, or anything of the like, but I think it is gross that this was deemed appropriate to print! When I find a professional that knows anything other than how to use a brush correctly, I will agree with this article. Thanks for sharing!

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  51. What a narrow minded view. I certainly wouldn't want my nails done by the likes of her.

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  52. I personally disagree with Ms. Lee, mainly because anytime I've been to get my nails done I've never had a nail technician suggest anything. They usually ask what you want done and do it as fast as humanly possible so they can get to the next client. Obviously not all nail technicians are like this, but they aren't selling nail polish either. Bloggers on the other hand, are creating a buzz for nail polish and nail polish companies realize this and are using this to increase their sales. I would think nail technicians, would as business people, find a way to use this to their advantage. In the end this is about increasing business. Insulting nail polish bloggers is not a way to increase business. That is just being catty and immature. I would hope no blogger would give this woman another moment of thought.

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  54. Wow, unbelievablly rude. And using bloggers swatches that they worked so hard over w/o giving due credit? Real classy chicky. :p

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  55. As a nail blogger, I find Hannah's article to be genuinely insulting and ignorant. My daughter and I began blogging because we love nail polish and sharing our passion for manicures with other like-minded people and for no other reason than that.

    As bloggers, we are probably more informed than many nail technicians regarding nail care, products and trends than most nail technicians. We review a variety of different products from different companies and most professional technicians stick with one product line. We are not, nor have we ever been or aspire to be "nail polish junkies who are looking for free handouts".

    We work damned hard on our blog and it's practically a second job. It's extremely time consuming taking all the photos, cropping and watermarking them, and typing out the posts on a daily basis. On many occasions, I have either stayed up late or gotten up early to get a post ready to publish.

    My cousin is a beautician and we've talked with the nail techs in her salon a couple times. They have been very impressed with our work and have actually told us they wished we were licensed so we could work professionally. We put our heart and soul into everything we do and I hope that shows.

    If the point of this article was to try to drum up business for the nail salons, I think it may have had the converse effect. This makes me never want to step into a salon again if this is a shared opinion of "professional nail technicians. I think an apology to the blogging world might be in order from Hannah.

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  56. you are 100% correct. What's the old saying "Lead, follow, or get out of the way?" The world is changing and there is no excuse for not being plugged in to the future. Most of these nail techs have smart phones, they can easily keep up with trends not just from bloggers, but the manufacturer's websites.

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  57. Thank you for sharing, Mary! She was so rude! For sure she feels bloggers as a threat, but it isn't bloggers' fault if average "pro" is not so passionate about nails polish and sees a mani just as a source of income (it's their job, so why should she advice the cheaper-but-good product or for instance natural nails instead of acrylics?).
    I had my nails done in a salon just once and I remember cuticle cutting, hasty filing and polish slapped in a thick coat - no quick dry or spray, so I went home keeping my hands in the air to not scratch it. Why shoud I pay for this? I can do better, also feeling relaxed as I take care of my nails.
    Pros want to be The Source of info? Start reading, be humble, curious and passionate about polish as many bloggers are. And spitting on others that you would use as a source of info (quote:"...put stuff you found on blogs...but present it to your clients as you being their go-to source")? Pathetic.

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  58. I do not get ahem "professional" manicures because 99% of the time the "professionals" don't know what they are doing and destroy my nails! So maybe she should be more concerned the the "professionals" actually learn their craft befor starting a blog themselves.

    Secondly, there should be a place for us enthusiasts who love to do their own manicures. I've been doing my own nails since I was 13. I need a place to see new colors and techniques too. Bloggers fill that place.

    Hooray for the bloggers out there! You go right on doing what you are doing!

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  59. My, I had no idea I needed a degree to enjoy nail polish... What a petty attitude, yikes. Like you say: room enough in the world for professionals and dedicated amateurs, in nail polish, make-up or any trade. Couldn't agree more. I think this lady perhaps needs a xanax-refill... I think business would be better if she stopped spewing sour grapes.

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  60. I am glad you posted this article so we all can see. I read the whole story and all the time I thought that this lady must be really scared. Frightened person is angry and insulting. I really do not blog about nails, but when I need information about nails or nail care, most of the time I Google blogs, because so called unprofessional bloggers tell things exactly how they are. They do not make money of it, they do not have to make things prettier and their asses are not on the line if they tell that this nail gel is crap. I can see that this "professional" lady is mad about it, because now when there are all these lovely unprofessional bloggers she has to think about new ways to keep up with them, she has to learn more and work harder and she do not get to be lazy anymore. Of course it pisses her off. I would take that as a compliment, because every word of her article says that bloggers tend to be better and more creative, and she has to keep up with them now. Even though she wanted to rely on her nail artist license till the end of her career.

    Your "unprofessional" blog's true reader and lover!

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  61. LOL! to me this is just hilarious! Blogs are another outlet for companies to push their product, if you're a pro then show some maturity and realise you are not alone in competition. I would advise anyone who feels threatened by blogs to rethink; who are you really afraid of? Your own customers? Think about it!

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  62. If it were not for nail bloggers, I would not know what's out there and what's coming, what I missed because I don't live in a big city that has everything somewhere. Like you Mary, when I have my hair cut and get to talking product, the stylist knows nothing at all. She has the worst collection of polishes I ever have seen for a professional. I would frankly be embarrassed if I were in her shoes and had that to show folks. If I depended on the one beauty supply 60 miles from me, I would only see the OPI classic colors. They no longer get anything else in because they could not afford to have them sit there and not sell. I love reading the new blogs and going back to look at shades from 3-8 yrs ago. It makes me also realize how lucky I am to have loved my polish bottles all my live since HS. I have tossed my collections and re-started them a # of times - but this current one despite a lot of purging, has some of the first OPI shades that came out in the late 80's and some CND's from days before OPI. Bloggers are a grassroots effort that really is playing off - we watch and can know what's going on globally with different brands we don't even see in our own countries and form friendships to trade around the globe to help one another. What a horrible article!

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  63. I am a nail technician AND a blogger (blogger first!) and I can see both sides of the argument but she comes across jealous and childish.
    Passion is passion. And having education and being knowledgeable will BUILD you a career. I believe I subscribe to this mag. I feel like writing in a letter and complaining now.

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  64. SO incredibly true about turning our passion into a job. I had my choice of career avenues and shocked everyone by not going into beauty. Why? Because I love what I do, and I want to continue loving it. Hardly any of the customer service in stores can answer MY questions which is a shame. Do I know everything? No. But if I am not savvy enough to find it myself or sort through my contacts, I've found I VERY rarely get an answer from many professionals either. My last two manicures have been awful (Except my CND one) leaving my nails very sad. Getting my hair cut is always hard, ever had a bad one? Professionals aren't perfect either. I know lots of professionals with their own blogs. Just because you have the passion for beauty doesn't mean you can WRITE about it!

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  65. thank you so much for this post. what Hannah said shocks me. i'm a hobby blogger and i have never met a nail tech in real life who knows more about nail products than me or can do a better job at polishing my nails than i can, especially not at the price i charge--and i spend A LOT on nail products. i don't get free products or income from my blog; i blog because i enjoy sharing my love of nail polish with others. Hannah obviously does not want me to love nail polish, which is funny because i am part of a the population who buys nail products! she's basically telling her most enthusiastic customers to stop being customers. great business strategy *thumbs up*
    i'm really glad i watermark my images if nail techs are going to start stealing bloggers' images...

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  66. I liked your response to her article. I read blogs to hear what people with a similar passion as me are interested in and what they are thinking. I kind of feel like she is missing the point of blogging--to share your passion with others, not to necessarily tell people what the best is. I really don't think that blogs are preventing people from going to salons either; there are people that like others to paint their nail and people that are more DIY (which is me).

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  67. This post speaks so much truth! Great post and keep doing what you do. :)

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  68. Ha! I work in a nail salon, at the desk on the phone. My nails, of course are stamped, glittered and awesome x10000 and people are constantly saying they want nails like mine, and ask if I got them done where I work. They tell me I should do nails but I have no desire to as my bosses make NO money and barely break even. How rude.

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  69. Good post. It's too bad they would publish something like that.

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  70. Thank you so much for posting this on your blog. I think the article is so nasty and very inaccurate. When I have gone to salons to have my nails done it is always with OPI, no other brand, and it peels in two days, so I stopped paying the price. They also hurt my hands while "massaging" theme. Most have never heard of Butter by London or Seche Vite because they live in such a narrow world of OPI. They haven't even heard of Zoya. Now I have fun doing my own nails. They look good, well conditioned, and I choose fun colours and styles that work for me, and with a top coat of Seche Vite last 5-6 days. I just started a beauty blog and I doubt I will ever make money off of it. That was never my intention. But I really appreciate the nail polish bloggers who are informative, creative and use various products with tutorials and reviews. Thank you all! ♥

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  71. Wow how mean is that article.Great post.

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  72. What a snotty woman! I'm not a nail blogger and even I'm offended. Bloggers don't need to know what nail shape looks best on others, because THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. They paint their own nails, show off the new collections and just share their enthusiasm for nail polish. It's apples and oranges, really and it sounds like she's just butthurt. I doubt any salon could name even half of the brands I see featured on nail blogs, and magazines write about collections much too late for consumers to go out and buy them. I'll take nail bloggers with their wealth of information and up to date info anyday ^__^

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  73. Thanks for sharing the generalizations in Nails Magazine... I am also a blogger and while my best friend and I write a blog, we use some commonsense and journalistic integrity. It's important to know the facts about what we're writing on rather than insult the very population we "claim" to serve!
    Before I began writing on nail polish and other cosmetic concerns, I was a journalist of real news in the newspaper business, then I went back to school and I am a school teacher by day and tutor. I find it derogatory that Hannah feels we who blog are not worth the space on the internet... well, her attitude is more likely to detract subscriptions than endear readership...
    I guess that will increase the readership for the rest of us!

    Susan of www.finelypolishedfriends.com

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  74. Here is her follow-up, like she couldn't figure out how negative her statements were including "looking for free handouts"
    http://blogs.nailsmag.com/editor/archive/2011/09/09/Follow-Up-to-Article-About-Consumer-Beauty-Bloggers.aspx
    Truthfully I think the follow-up is bigger BS than the original article.

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  75. I find this really insulting and infuriating!!
    Who does she think she is telling people not to share what they love?? The only reason that I write my blog is because I have a passion for nails, polish, art, etc.! How absolutely gross of that woman. Just lost a ton of respect for that magazine...

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  76. yeah... i commented on a nails mag post once, in response to a professional tech's comment, calling another pro stupid for agreeing with the article stating common nail myths. The myth in question was that your nails need to breathe. Anyone who has ever had their nails or hair cut can deduce that they are in fact NOT living tissue, but this "pro" with 20 years of experience took it upon herself to be cruel and rude to a woman who obviously knew better.

    yeah... screw you, NM, and get a grip.

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  77. also, im pretty sure if i went to any nail salon near me and asked for a ruffian, i'd have something slipped in my drink and wake up in a bathtub filled with ice missing a kidney.

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  78. Sounds like someone afraid more, of lost profits and prestige... Those that are truly passionate about something love to share it and teach others, not put them down, for sharing information to those of us interested in learning.

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  79. Thanks so much for letting us know about this. I hope you don't mind - I've linked to your blog. Great job. Hannah Lee must really not have 2 brain cells to rub together.

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  80. I think this poor misinformed woman is just jealous. Her problem is she doesn't have a collection of nail polishes made for her. I think it's pretty amazing that bloggers have had collections made for them. Not many professionals have the time nor the interest to really research all the polish companies. When you work for someone your job is to get them painted & out as fast as you can. It would be wonderful if all professionals were so informed as all the bloggers. I learn so much from all of you. I went to school and had a license. Of course I'd know about different nail shapes for different people. I was taught that. I know from what I've read about the time & energy it takes to write a blog. Not all of the nail professionals have the writing skills or time to do this. This woman was very insulting to the wonderful bloggers I read. I think bloggers bring about more business. I guess you'd better bring your own polishes. I doubt many salons carry all the brand we like. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Just makes me love all you bloggers even more. Yours is a very well written & informative blog. Someone should give you your own collection. You deserve it Mary. You really work hard on your blog. Not all blogs are as good as yours. This "professional" should read your blog and learn something.

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  81. I find the article insulting. I will start by saying that I do NOT have my own blog, but do have a passion for polish and blogs about polish.

    First, WE are their customers. WE are how they make money. THEY depend on US to make money to LIVE. They should not bite the hand that feeds them.
    I know that "professionals" never seem to know what is going on. Always clueless when I ask them questions. Article says that they are educated about products, but let's be honest, they know what they sell. They will not tell you that products not sold by them are better than theirs. Their business is to sell.

    Many don't even know about product lines they sell. To me this is not "professional". They SHOULD have the inside scoope our brands they sell. If bloggers (or even their readers) know before salon professionals, well that is lazyness. Maybe they should read a few blogs so they are not embarrassed by knowing less than us normal folk. It is their job to learn this stuff.

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  82. Wow, this was insulting. And totally stupid to write that and put some pictures from Painted Lady and others some pages later !

    I don't know how this is in other countries, but here in Belgium, most of the nail professionals I've met (technicians and/or pro vendors for techs) don't know about the common things we all nail bloggers know (Konad, brands like China Glaze, techniques like sponging ...)
    They are mostly aware on gel nails techniques, but most of them don't imagine it's possible to draw with classic nail polish on nails. And most of them also think that cheap brands can't work, only high end brands are good.

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  83. Last time I went for a pedicure from a "professional," at a pretty high end salon, they commented that my toenails were incredibly smooth and couldn't find a callous to remove. I went home and repainted my toenails myself because the "professional" had done such a shoddy job.

    I have several friends who drop big bucks in salons because they don't have the skill or creativity to create simple nail art and have issues with application and color choice. Know whose nails get compliments? Mine.

    I am but a lowly blogger, and a newbie at that, and after over 50 posts, I have yet to receive any freebies. Will that stop me from continuing to blog? No way! I'm not stupid enough to turn down free stuff if someone sends it my way, but I'm not begging here. I simply love beauty products and I love writing. I love that reading other blogs has introduced me to products that I don't find in my local drugstores OR my local salons. If I can help someone else decide which shade of green to order this fall, fantastic. If not, I'm having fun.

    If this woman wants to keep her precious nail techs at the top of the food chain (because, apparently there is a food chain), maybe she should recommend that they step up their game and learn from us instead of insulting us. The only nail tech I've met who does my toes better than me shops at Sally, uses China Glaze and Art Club and loves when I suggest color combos she's never done. Several of my ideas have ended up in her nail art book for other clients to choose from.

    I work in a highly competitive tech industry, and our company credo encourages us to look at our competitors as challengers, not enemies. We stay ahead because we offer a superior product and our representatives are the most knowledgeable in the business, not because we try to shut everyone else down. Maybe it's time the beauty "professionals" take the same approach.

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  84. She certainly doesn't have a clue how blogging works, how exactly does a consumer blogger step aside for these pros? The only way would be if they stopped blogging, because the readers are the ones who decide which blog will be successful and which will not.

    We chose what we want to read on the internet and I expect very few nail techs to be as informed on the dozens and possibly hundreds of nail polish brands and their collections than the so called "consumer blogger". In other words, I'd rather read the amateurs! lol Like so many others have said, the nail tech can tell me about the latest OPI collection, the hobby blogger can tell me about that and so much more.

    The other important point is that blogging is hard work and time consuming. There is so much more to it than simply writing, and not everyone is even good at writing a coherent, grammatically correct, correctly spelled, and INTERESTING blog post. Then there is taking well lit, in focus photos, cropping, resizing, possibly color correcting, etc. You have to be dedicated to update a blog to keep your readership interested. Not to mention you will be expected to respond to comments and be willing to answer readers questions etc.

    I think she is seriously underestimating the work and dedication that goes into blogging, and very misinformed and ignorant as well as terribly rude.

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  85. Wow, this is the rudest and most degrading thing I've read in weeks! What does this lady want, a law that forbids non-professionals to talk about their passion? Something Animal Farm-esque, where some nail enthusiasts are more equal than others? Seriously, most nail techs don't know anything about brands other than OPI and they look at me like I'm a four-headed gargoyle when I ask them about a new product line.

    I've had a professional manicure once, they did a terrible job, filed my nails the wrong way, didn't even use a top coat and sent me outside while my polish hadn't dried. The cost? Oh, just a lousy $30. Can you imagine it: me trying to grab my ATM card while my polish was still soaking wet? And people wonder why so many people prefer DIY instead!
    I understand that nail professionals suffer under the recession, just like many other industries do. But blaming Bloggers for that is just plain stupid.

    Nailpolish bloggers won't move over, so maybe nail techs should get their smug off and step up for a change.

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  86. So insulting,in many levels!Our blogs are our personal space where we can share with our readers what ever the hell we want,its a space to express ourselfs,show what we are passionate about,and nobody has the right to say "Move over,take a step back"!I like to do my own nails,I like to look for new hot shades of polish and show it to my readers,but I never claim I am a professional,Its just a hobby,something that makes me happy,not looking to make any money out of it,or free stuff,and I know so many bloggers who feel the same way,so this article is just plain and simple rude wrote by an ignorant woman!

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  87. This is hilarious and infuriating in equal measures. The issue in general is not specific to the nail industry - not so long ago there was a cyber drama with some very catty comments regarding 'amateurs' being asked to speak at a 'professional' convention - Lauren Luke and IMATS if you're wondering. Make of that what you will.

    In my view, the difference between being an amateur or a professional in anything is purely ability and knowledge - qualifications don't really come into it if the end result is poor.

    Interesting how not a single comment on your post has agreed with Ms Lee. I forsee Nails Mag sales plummeting... xx

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  88. A-FREAKIN-MEN! You are preaching to the choir.

    "Journalists" (and I use that term lightly because I doubt many magazine writers earned their dues by going to school and becoming a "real journalist" are so threatened by bloggers. Why? Because we can tell it like it is. We don't have to cowtow to advertisers. We don't have deadlines and financial pressures to overcome in order to be heard. We can write what we are passionate about and click "publish" on our blogs.

    My sister--who has been in the beauty and fashion industry for ages--was so impressed with my nails and passion for what I'm doing, she encouraged me to get a license. NO WAY. Not because I don't have respect for professionals, but between my chronic illnesses and the chemicals in salons, I would never make it.

    Besides, this is a hobby. I'm not trying to "get free samples"--although when in discussions with a polish company recently, I did mention to them I do product reviews. I believe in their company and see this as a way to help them. Would I love free polish? HELL YES. lol I won't lie!

    But here's the thing--writing/reviewing is my hobby. I'm disabled. I'd rather spend $20 on a Lippmann polish than go to a salon. I can't afford the upkeep. Plus I see it as one more "craft" to work on and perfect for myself. Blogging is just a fun outlet for that creativity.

    Do I depend on Bloggers for polish advice? HELL YES. If I want to know what a swatch really looks like, I turn to my ever growing blog roll. I subscribe to my favorites by mail so I never miss a thing.

    We are consumers. The one that the editor is so quick to insult. I don't leave my intellect at the door when I go to the doctor, it's not going to stop when it comes to nail polish. If I know more about some things than some doctors encounter, I guarantee I know more than some of the 'pro nail techs'.

    Step back, Nails magazine. Threatened much?

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  89. Whats so interesting is that the "professional" nail techs Ive encountered know VERY little about the industry.... They are unfamiliar with brands, collections, techniques, products...etc.

    I dont even go to salons for nail services anymore...havent for years.

    The beauty bloggers ARE the experts- you may not all be nail techs, but you are experts on every other part of the industry...imo. You dont have to be a service provider to be an expert. If you ask me, the service providers are in business because of the experts. Ladies go into salons looking for things they read on your blogs. The service providers should just do what they do.....which is do peoples nails. They are servers in a service industry. They need to stay in their lane...or be willing to share.

    :)

    You keep doing what you are so good at!
    Deborah
    (SoPolished @ MUA)

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  90. Thank you for posting this. I totally agree with what you and the majority of the commenter are saying.

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  91. She's encouraging them to make their own blog? HAHAHAHA!

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  92. I so completely agree with you! There is a spot in the industry for everyone! Sheesh, as a blogger who has never received any free things from companies I really don't like the fact that she is labelling all of us unprofessional bloggers as people in it for the freebies. Some like you said are in it because it's a hobbie they're passionate about. I'm a zoology major for gosh sakes, but I blog to try and help people discover quality from whatever walk of life based on my own experiences. Excellent rebuttal.

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  93. thanks for bringing this issue to attention mary, i am CANCELLING my subscription to that magazine immediately. no matter who their "target" audience is, they should realize that there is always overflow. disgusting and beyond insulting.

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  94. Nails polish junkies.......something we can read some things really weird ^^ When does cooking industry ask to us stop cooking ha ha ?? There is a lot of professional who don't make nail art, don't know the trends & news....Professional are free to create a blog isnt'it ? If manufacturer sometimes turn toward by us it's maybe only because we are open & happy not like many professionnal who don't want to try new things !! Thanks for sharing Mary :)

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  95. thanks for posting this article. This is really insulting for the bloggers!! Nail bloggers know much more than the professionals and they always provide their honest opinion.

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  96. And she calls herself a professional?!?!
    Thank you for sharing and I agree with all the comments. Nothing more to add.

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  97. I am a professional gel nails technician and I have no clients and I still prefer nail polish... plus, the blog is mine I write what I want so that Lee individual can kiss my arse :)

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  98. wow. I'm offended by this and I don't even have a blog. She comes off as arrogant and rude, like she's looking down her nose at bloggers or "unlicensed" polish enthusiasts. I think she's making the industry WAY more cutthroat than it needs to be. Like you said, there is room for everyone. I read her follow-up blurb to this article and it didn't do anything to help her redeem herself. If anything it was her obviously just trying to cover up her rude and condescending comments when all she was doing was back-peddling. Either way, her article AND follow-up was rude and unnecessary.

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  99. and she is an editor? seriously? :-p

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  100. Urgh. It's funny that I should come across this after reading Chioma Nnadi's article in the beauty section of Vogue where she says (and I quote): "...a bottle of peacock-green holographic nail lacquer, Chanel's new Peridot..." *cough-chartreuse green duochrome-cough*

    This article is extremely insulting. A journalist just has to write, a photographer just has to take photographs, a graphic designer just has to design...but a blogger has to do ALL of those things. AND create original content.

    I could go on endlessly about all the things wrong with this but I think the point is that a group of consumers has become more knowledgable than the "professionals". I know more about Chanel Peridot than a beauty writer for Vogue. And I don't write for Vogue. I write for some polish blog.

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  101. wow. that's totally unprofessional. mary, your response was great. bloggers are extremely knowledgeable about products and i learn so much from them! thank you for all the work you put into your blog :)

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  102. Thanks so much for calling this article to our attention. I really appreciate your balanced viewpoint.

    I found it amusing that bloggers are being accused of looking for handouts when items for consideration and review are sent to magazines. I will venture that NAILS Magazine receives far more product than I do.

    I can understand the editor wanting to inspire professionals to start and maintain their own blogs as a way to boost revenue in their salons. I don't understand attempting to do so by trying to create competition with a group of enthusiasts and hobbyists. I agree with your assessment that there is room for everyone.

    Thank you for mentioning that my blog was featured in Nails Magazine this month. This is the first I've heard of it. I enjoy Nails Magazine and am pleased they recommended my blog. My experience with the magazine as a reader before this editorial was published had been wholly positive.

    While this editorial is upsetting to me, I know it doesn't reflect the feelings of every person at the magazine. That's something I hold onto. I hope that Nails Magazine will consider their entire readership (including professionals and hobbyists) when publishing future editorials.

    I wish the message of urging nail techs and salon owners to blog had been delivered differently. I think another way to see it would be: Look at the passion and energy these bloggers are putting into their content and how can professionals learn from this?

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  103. I find that article hilarious. Bloggers should stop blogging about their hobby. But professionals should...start a blog? Ha. That's a bit confusing.

    The salon where I discovered Zoya polish went out of business. And they didn't recommend a color, they said "pick a color." I think there is values in professionals keeping up on trends and informing their clients to build a base of regular customers. But I also think there's value in consumers asking other consumers what they think of products, and blogging is a great way to do that.

    I post pictures of my nails on my blog, but mostly because I like sharing colors with other people, not to get free products.

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  104. I do not care for her elitist tone at all nor her backtracking at the end of the article. While she does make some valid points, I can't take her argument seriously when all I take away from her article is this underlying tone of "wah, give me back my spotlight."

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  105. well, that was uncalled for. if she wants people in the industry only to be professionals she is the first to go. because writing and PUBLISHING a piece like that, even in the editor's page, has nothing to do with professional attitude. and I do believe that it is possible deliver the message to the professionals to remain professionals and develop without calling names. as is this piece shows a lot of insecurity that the industry feels about blogging. yes, availability of internet and loads of thematic blogs puts a lot of pressure on so called professionals, but that should be a reason to become better professionals to stand out of the bunch, not blame your failures on other people's hobbies

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  106. Hi,

    Don't have much to say that hasn't been said yet, I'm quite shocked, especially since, as you pointed out, there are many nail technicians out there who know less than nail-bloggers on their own trends. And I'm sorry, but saying that nail-bloggers are taking business away from professionals is BS: I never thought of going to a salon for my manicures or pedicures, I just prefer doing things myself, so I was not driven away from salons by reading blogs. As for being responsible from driving some of my (very few) readers away, I don't believe it either. People who want to go to salons will go to salons. Internet and blogs just provide more informations and help you be a better consumer. The one big difference between bloggers and professionals (by this I mean bloggers vs people who work in salons, not "professional bloggers" vs "amateur") is that bloggers base their opinions on their own experience, not which brand they have a contract with. OK, some (and not the majority) bloggers receive products from brands, but it only makes them more able to try and compare and come up with a better-founded opinion. Honestly, which salon technician and the opportunity and time to test everything they have in the salon, let alone everything that's available?
    For me, going to a salon is an act in itself that doesn't have much to do with being a polish addict, and I'm quite disappointed to see that professional can be so spiteful about seeing someone approaching their little patch of grass....
    It was quite long for someone who didn't have much more to say about it, and I'm not sure I made much sense :p

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  107. I guess next we should expect some moron like Anthony Bourdain to go off on food bloggers that aren't professionally trained cooks (Heaven knows, he seems to get off on bashing other food stars, I'm surprised he missed this chance.)

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  108. That article is so awful :( I learn more online than I've ever learned in a salon.

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  109. I couldn't agree with your post more. I have found myself toying with nail art as of late, and while I don't do it professionally, I do enjoy it.
    There are many artists out there that are amazing and I can't even begin to be on the same level as them, but I am offended for them. These people take a lot of time, effort and energy into their craft, hobby, passion whatever you want to call it. My point is that this is something they love to do. Not every person has to be professionally trained in order to be good at what they do.
    I feel as if the point that she was trying to make was to motivate people within the industry to step up their game. But I just feel that if it weren't for competition life would be pretty dull and boring. Why would you want to better your craft or yourself for that matter.
    I just don't agree with the way in which she went about it. I don't understand the point of hate and nastiness just for the sake of being nasty. There really was no need for that kind of tone or language at all. That is the kind of thing that really turns people off from your product and your credibility within your industry. I feel as if she could have made her point in a more constructive way. I don't feel as if using a bullying tone is the way to achieve that. People wonder why children use negative language towards others...I wonder where they get it from. Is this the kind of example that needs to be set. Understood that this comment seems a bit melodramatic, but in all honesty if this is the way she is going to speak to her readers/audience, dear God how does she speak to the people she has no interest in.

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  110. I work in the beauty industry, but not as a licensed professional. I don't blog, but love to read them. I think Ms. Hannah Lee's other problem with bloggers is that the beauty bloggers are getting press invites to what was previously exclusive to licensed pros only. Ms. Lee should consider being sour towards those who thought it would be a good idea to invite those beauty bloggers. Let's be honest here, those bloggers are doing what they do and are doing it very well--- which is to bring interest in diverse/multiple brands which incidentally brings in $$$ for these nail companies. Look how many different brands have popped up in the past 5 years. Look at how many older companies have stepped up their game with product availability on a retail level. Nail blogging sure helped the economy in that respects.
    Ms. Lee needs some customer service skills training. I highly recommend she does a temporary career switch and try to work in customer service for a utility company.

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  111. I'm a professional esthetician & make-up artist who also has a blog, but the simple fact of the matter is that no one can deny the powerful voice that serious bloggers have in the beauty industry. As a business woman, she should not being trying to alienate them in the least!

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  112. As I read this it I was laughing to myself. I have a nail polish website and every one of the polishes that I carry were found on blogger's sites. My "cutting edge" professional salon that I have used in the past is still featuring the OPI Texas Collection. The only thing I have gained from the "nail polish professionals" is a set of acrylics that ruined my nails and a bad case of fungus! Never once did they recommend products to actually make my nails healthy. My nails are now growing out strong and healthy due to a BLOGGER that gave me information on how to do so!

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  113. shame on her... keep on blogging as i found your blog a source of information to the latest..

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  114. As a journalist, I was surprised by Ms. Lee's attack on nail bloggers - especially since said bloggers represent no threat to the salon professionals that read NAILS magazine. It is us journos who are competing with bloggers, both for readers and advertising dollars.

    I covered the issue for a news blog I write for:
    http://bit.ly/p4zpWH

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  115. She advises stealing content from online bloggers? I have news for her, that is copyright infringement and illegal.

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  116. Oh please, 99% of the nail technicians I've been to suck, use bad products, cut cuticles and file nails both ways. So I'm sorry if she's good at her job, but most aren't!

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